nemises
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"awesome" friday gauntlet - 2007/03/17 07:33
the gauntlet today was bullshit, basically an excuse to give 500 points to a city of good players.
I logged on tonight not even aware a gauntlet was going to start or whatever... there were cities on the map and I was having fun fighting and owning pirate. It finally got down to there were very few cities on the map, including huambo which was stacked. We started attacking huambo but then decided to get the gauntlet instead.
We later directed our attention to huambo and now there were literally hundreds of turrets surrounding huambo, protecting it so they could get the gauntlet. Gauntlets are competetive, and at least in ones of this form, you should be able to kill the other cities. Or AT LEAST all cities should be on even footing.
We thought, whatever, I guess we should just continue to go after the gauntlet. However, our city was attacked and by the time we rebuilt, the gauntlet was destroyed. The protection that was afforded to huambo (and their positioning right next to the gauntlet) allowed them to dominate it.
Now I am not sure that Rise BCL realized what he did, but he gave one team the complete advantage in orbing the gauntlet. He basically gave 4 players 500 free points for shooting some turrets. There was absolutely no competition for them.
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Rise Against
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Re: - 2007/03/17 07:58
At the very beginning, it was only Beng and Hbo. After I finished the gauntlet hbo orbed beng, and beng orbed hbo back. Both cities lost people. They made a truce and started on the gauntlet. Eventually beng was orbed again, but this time by pirate. Everyone in beng left except cseow who join hbo. Because this gauntlet was huge and so far almost half of the original people left, I gave hbo a shit load of plasmas so they wouldn't leave if pirate orbed them. After I gave them turrets your team went around orbing everyone else(maybe this is why you were attacked). I didn't want an hour worth of work to go to waste because some people can't work together.
nemises wrote:
There was absolutely no competition for them.
There was no competition for them because nobody else decided to actually attack the gauntlet untill hbo had done about 90% of it. It is not like you were there from the beginning and actually did alot of work.
Post edited by: Rise Against, at: 2007/03/17 11:19
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Weebo
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Re: - 2007/03/17 16:44
If you had asked Rise Against to afford your city protection as well, he would have been glad to. Under the circumstances, the participants were given protection so that they could actually take part in the event because that is what they wished to do. Unfortunately there are lamers in the game which make this necessary.
Somemtimes one city will have better positioning and be closer to the gauntlet. If you wish to take part, set up your city closer, or ask rise against to let u in a city near by. Also, Rise Against is always happy to summon people who have died right back to the Gauntlet. All you have to do is ask.
In this situation, it did not initially seem your city wished to take part or was not completely aware there was a gauntlet taking place at first.
Rise Against always does his best to make sure everyone who wants to take part is able to and has a good time. Just take the time to communicate with him in the future. Sorry for any misunderstandings.
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NEMISIS
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Re: - 2007/03/17 17:41
The gauntlet is free to any player who starts at any time that they want so far as I know. So why should it matter that some players started on it later then others? I was in a city that was TRYING to compete in gauntlet, but couldnt because we had no such special privlidges. Orbing everyone? How the hell else were we supposed to stay alive long enough to play in the gauntlet? Rise didnt want to see Cseows team in HBO not get the 500 points, so he gave them a shit load of protection and told them not to worry about attacks he had it covered.Meanwhile everyone else is open game, and thats not fair to the rest of the players.
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Weebo
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Re: - 2007/03/17 17:52
Did you ask Rise Against to protect your base as well?
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wdouglas
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Re: - 2007/03/17 20:34
Get a fucking life you moron.
Who the fuck cares if there was turrets around someones city.
It's a game, have fun and stop bitching about every little thing that doesn't go your way. I'm sick and tired of hearing people complain about stupid bullshit that really is inconsequential.
Get over it.
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Merloch
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Re: - 2007/03/18 00:00
Question... why was pirate even allowed to participate in the guantlet?
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vindkast
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Re: - 2007/03/18 04:24
Shady players have no right to cry admin abuse. All the people who play the game the way it's supposed to be played never have any problems with admins or BCL accounts. I know you think the admins have to be perfect while you can do whatever the hell you want, but maybe you should take some responsibility for the situations you help create.
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Merloch
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Re: - 2007/03/18 04:47
THis is a load of shit.
Define a shady player?
Apparently its always been "whatever you can do in game goes", until it upsets a few select people and they decide to change the rules when they dont like it. AS in the past, if he isnt cheating or using bugs, whats wrong with it?
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Weebo
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Re: - 2007/03/18 06:39
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Pirate wasn't taking part in the Gauntlet. He was trying to orb the cities that were taking part.
Huambo was taking part. They were given protection so they could continue taking part without people orbing them.
What exactly is the problem? Your city wasn't protected? Maybe you should have demoed your bomb factory like Huambo and made sure none of your commando's were attacking other cities. If you didn't, get over it.
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vindkast
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Re: - 2007/03/18 07:08
Define a shady player? I wasn't writing BC law there, I was just saying that (lately) it's always the people who start shit that whine when they get in trouble for it. I've kicked exactly 2 people in my 2 years with an admin account, and both of them have posted about admin abuse in the last week. It's hard to take seriously a complaint from somebody with a history of creating situations that require admin intervention.
On the old forum there was a stickied post of rules that listed playing 21, laming cities, and trapping CCs as punishable. It's never been anything goes-- Remote said he thinks the game should enforce the rules instead of an admin team, but that doesn't mean we're not going to stop somebody who's exploiting or making the game unplayable for people.
Of course, none of this talk about rules or admin intervention really applies to an event admin putting turrets around a city that was participating in the event?
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nemises
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Re:"awesome" friday gauntlet - 2007/03/18 23:53
You cannot choose not to hear the criess of the general population by dismissing them because the people who brought them up were "shady players" in your eyes. When admins try to filter out who is shady and who is not, that is when the game becomes bullshit because admins/BCL hosts do not treat players equally. BTW, The nazi's thought the jews were shady.
I did not post this for 500 points, I posted it so people will realize that this game doesn't need any more problems and admin abuse has been in the past and could potentially spread. Unfortunately, it is impossible to be completely unbiased, but it makes perfect sense to treat all players the same way. But rules need to be well known and punishment should be consistent throughout the population.
BCL hosts should feel like they are walking on glass when they decide to log onto their BCL accounts. It is like choosing to carry around a gun. When they choose to log onto their accounts, they have a responsibility and should forget their friends and act as if they don't do their job right they will get fired. They should think about the implications of their actions on everyone playing before they even make actions.
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nemises
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Re: - 2007/03/19 00:03
S n G 4 lyfe wigga
wdouglas wrote:
Get a fucking life you moron.
Who the fuck cares if there was turrets around someones city.
It's a game, have fun and stop bitching about every little thing that doesn't go your way. I'm sick and tired of hearing people complain about stupid bullshit that really is inconsequential.
Get over it.
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vindkast
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Re: - 2007/03/19 03:59
nemises wrote:
BTW, The nazi's thought the jews were shady.
thread win
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zhantrim
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Re: - 2007/03/19 14:28
vindkast wrote:
nemises wrote:
BTW, The nazi's thought the jews were shady.
thread win
The allies had the Maginot line, so obviously the people complaining about too many turrets must be Nazis.
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